What does the timing for a round look like?

Some of the questions I receive about chelation are based on how to set up the dose times and how long do you have to chelate? At first this all seems rather daunting and complex but I promise, by the time you have done 10 rounds it becomes like brushing your teeth….well almost….if you add in getting up at night.

I’ve always heard that “it’s so much work getting up a night, how do you do it?” Well, my response has always been “it isn’t any different from when I had to get up to feed my newborn son. He needed to be fed, I got up. Well he needs this medicine…so I get up. It isn’t glamorous but it is working.

Over the years our timing schedule has changed depending on things like school schedule or chelator used but what is consistent is that we must dose by the half-life and the rounds cannot be shorter than 64 hours.

Since all rounds at some point should use ALA (or you’re never going to get mercury out of the brain) the following are based on 3 hour dosing schedules for using ALA (you’d give DMSA at the same time if using both):

This works for kids not in school or on a three-day break from school:

  • Day One: 6am, 9am, 12 noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, 12 mid,
  • Day Two: 4am, 8am, 11am, 2pm, 5pm, 8pm, 11pm
  • Day Three: 3am, 6am, 9am, 12 noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, midnight. -66 hours
    • *If I end at 11:00pm it’s 65 hours which is also acceptable.

Kids in school aren’t able to take doses during the school day and would chelate Friday after school through Monday morning. It is never advised to involve school in this process for many reasons: doses get forgotten, people misunderstand what this is and call CPS on you…I’m not kidding, I’ve seen this happen. Just skip the hassle, take care of this on your own.

  • Friday: 4pm, 7pm, 10pm
  • Saturday: 2am, 6am, 9am, 12 noon, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm, 12 mid
  • Sunday: 4am, 8am, 11am, 2pm, 5pm, 8pm, 11pm
  • Monday: 3am, 6am, 8-9 am.
    • *These rounds are usually 63-64 hours, you really want 64.

If your round is not this long you need to figure out if you can pick your child up from school on Friday or drop them off Monday morning to add that additional dose.  Sometimes avoiding the bus ride will give you the extra hour or two you need. If you have children in school you also need to take advantage of every 3 day weekend, holiday break and the entire summer break to do more rounds on a three-day schedule where possible. This will be easier because you only get up two nights, not three.

The times I posted are going to vary depending on what time you plan to give the first dose. You have to maintain the 3 hours daytime dosing. You can do that as night as well but it isn’t necessary because when your child sleeps, their metabolism is slower. They will not process the chelator as fast.

You finish your 3 days/two nights and take at least 4 days off before the next one. Most can manage a round a week. There is room to do longer rounds but this doesn’t work for everyone. Just remember as many hours as you chelated, you need to take at least that many off.

An important key to remember is that doses cannot be given late by more than one hour!!  Keep track of who in the home is dosing. This avoid confusion with forgotten or extra doses.  Yes this happens, more than you think it does. Make a schedule, print it out, post it in plain sight. Check off the doses as they are given. Or use a method similar to this.

We are all human so do the best you can but don’t beat yourself up if you can’t spend the entire summer doing a round every week. I’d advise it if you can, but I get it if you can’t. The key to remember is this process takes a long time. The average is 100-300 rounds and some need more than that.So you really do want to do as many as you can feasibly manage.

Kids grow up, they don’t want to take supplements or chelators anymore. They get jobs and go to college….and at some point compliance may become an issue. Ideally you want chelation done before those things happen. Plus…the sooner you get the mercury out, the better they will be in the long run.

The exception here is going to be for those that started this process when their children were already older. They will have fewer choices and fitting rounds in regardless of busy teen schedules will become a priority. Adults have jobs, families to care for but they still manage to chelate, it’s just not as easy on your schedule. (case in point..me!)

Don’t get discouraged…don’t get overwhelmed…just take ONE round at a time.

Mantra: 3 days on, 4 days off, 64 hours minimum, don’t be late by more than an hour!

Chelation Update: Round 185

We finished round 185 at his old dose of 50mg of ALA. After the experience with the dose increase on round 184, I decided we need to do a few more rounds at 50mg before we try the increase again. I have never been one for pushing dose increases if it made the child more uncomfortable because often times you need to sort out what will help those symptoms so they can be comfortable instead. Do I need more antioxidants? Do I need to just do a few more rounds at the current dose before raising again? Are the adrenals supported well enough? Is my child sleeping well?

Since I have been at this so long in our own case I know it’s a matter or we need to wait a bit longer at the current dose and then try it again.

I have no gains to report this time either but we don’t seem to have “gains” anymore in the sense that you do early on because most of those ASD symptoms are gone. What we generally see is just a happier child. He just seems more himself on rounds.  We are at a point where we’re are on the tail end of mercury removal and huge gains have already come. So it’s important to remind ourselves there is still a reason to continue chelating. That mercury is not all out yet!

This round was otherwise better than the last. He did not experience the symptoms he did at the higher dose. Something to always remember is pushing the doses up higher to try to “do more faster” is not always going to work because the goal is to be comfortable if possible when chelating.

I won’t even get into how tired I am after this round….I did not get a lot of sleep, since I had trouble falling back to sleep after waking at night. On a good note though I did complete round 125 with little to no symptoms other than the tiredness associated with sleep disruption. (200mg which is above the 1mg per pound limit for adults but at this point it’s necessary to “prove” if mercury is actually still a problem for me)

Chelation update: Round 184

We are plugging away with the goal of a round every other week which seems to be what my adrenals can tolerate in terms of losing sleep. I don’t generally have adrenal symptoms from rounds but I just get pretty run down by day 3 from waking up every couple of hours at night and that is the primary problem. I don’t do well on 3 and 4 hour sleep increments.

I decided that this round we would raise my son’s dose. We have not really seen much from chelation in a long time. He does very well on rounds but we don’t notice any symptoms either way really, which means it’s time to try an increase in dose. Plus he’s grown by leaps and bounds this past year so according to his weight we can raise.

He’s been at 50mg for a long time, so we increased it to 60mg if ALA. Our main challenge is administering these higher doses since he is still not able to swallow capsules.

It was a bit tricky making more chelator powder fit into his peanut butter cups but  since we use gel caps for vitamin A, E and D I just used a few drops from one of those to make the peanut butter less dry. I incorporate the essential 4 plus whatever else my son needs on rounds into his peanut butter cup chelator doses anyway. (this includes: vitamin C, magnesium, milk thistle, E, zinc, GSE, ACE etc. Not all at the same time of course but each chelator dose will have one or two of these things in it so he reaches the daily doses he needs)

He seemed to be a bit off his first two days at this dose. He complained that he felt like he had brain fog and didn’t feel well over all. He really could not concentrate at all on school work either. I increased his vitamin C and magnesium doses which helped somewhat but over all he really didn’t seem to do as well.

Here we are post round day one and he is sleeping in super late today. Since entering his teen years he sleeps a lot more now (which is normal) but he also recalled waking up for a few of his night doses on night 2 which has tired him out. He has requested to return to his previous dose because he felt so off on this increase.

So I think we will go back to 50mg for now and see if I can figure how to make that more comfortable for him next time I try the increase. (We are getting his labs back next week which might help)

What this does tell me is he’s still got mercury (which we knew from the hair test) and chelation is still working, even at 50mg. It’s just doing it more comfortably at 50mg than it does at 60mg.